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Visa: Introduction to Chinese visas

There are four types of Chinese visas you are likely to come across. A couple of other types do
exist, but you are unlikely to need to know about them unless you are here long term or work on a
boat.

Contents

* X or student visa
* Z or working visa
* F or business visa
* L or tourist visa
* Visa free Entry
* APEC Cards
* Green Card
* Notes
  o Length of stay restrictions.

[top]X or student visa

Used by long-term students (usually more than one semester). Obtained from your local Chinese
embassy or consulate, you will need to provide proof of enrollment at a Chinese university.
Private schools are not usually able to assist you obtain an X visa. Once you have your X visa you
have three months to enter China. Once you enter the country you have thirty days to complete the
residence permit application process which will allow you to leave and enter the country as you
please as long as it is valid.

Under this Visa, the student is not supposed to work. However if the student is a native speaker
there is ample opportunity to teach English and get paid under the table. Many students do this,
and the authorities rarely check up on the students unless they have a reason. However, realize
that working under this visa is illegal[1].

[top]Z or working visa

Obtained from your local Chinese embassy or consulate, you will need to provide an invitation
letter from an approved Chinese employer. Many employers are reluctant to provide this and may ask
you to enter on a tourist or business visa. Once you have your Z visa you have three months to
enter China. Once you enter the country you have thirty daysto complete the residence permit
application process which will allow you to leave and enter the country as you please as long as
it is valid.

[top]F or business visa

Although commonly called a 'business' visa, the F actually stands for 访问 or visit. The F visa
is appropriate for short-term students (one semester or less) (that need to be confirmed as of
01-01-2008!!!!), those visiting for business purposes, visiting scholars, short-term internships
(not exceeding 6 months), etc. It is also commonly used by those working in China who cannot
obtain a Z visa. This is not legal, but often done.

To get an F visa from an overseas embassy or consulate you will need a letter of invitation from a
school or business in China. However, in Hong Kong agencies can arrange, at a cost, F visas of up
to three month duration with no documentation required. For more info, read about Hong Kong F
visas.

For many young westerners this is the visa of Choice. Most Europeans can get a 1 year visas, US
and other countries can be restricted to a 6 month visa. In some of the wealthier cities of
Beijing or Shanghai you may work one month (usually teaching English) and live of the earning for
another 5 months until you need to renew you visa or work again.

If you leave your Z work visa job the company can get the police station to revoke your visa.
However this entails some paperwork and is rarely done. For this reason some foreign workers
prefer the F visa. In addition, companies and schools need authority certification to issue the Z-
visa invitation letters. The criteria for F visa is less, and some schools will ask you to get the
F -visa.

Note: since 01-01-2008 the requirements for F Visa are stiffer. Hong Kong travel agent now give
only up the 3 month with no proof. For longer you need an invitation letter and you will have to
apply through an official channel.

[top]L or tourist visa

No supporting documentation required, but when applying don't mention on the form that you are a
journalist planning to research the plight of ethnic minorities in sensitive border regions.
Duration can range from 30 days to 120 days, and can usually be extended up to two times within
China.

[top]Visa free Entry

Currently, following nationals can enter China without visa for up to 15 days: Brunei, Japan,
Singapore
Source: http://www.fmcoprc.gov.hk/eng/zgqz/xwrmq/

[top]APEC Cards

If you are an APEC region resident you may can apply for an APEC card with a China visa waiver. An
APEC card will give you 3 years visa free entry.
http://www.apec.org/content/apec/bus...s_travel0.html

[top]Green Card

If you have started a large company in China or married a Chinese National, lived in China for 5
years you can apply and get a Chinese Permanent Resident Card. This will allow you to come and
leave the PRC without a visa. You will present the Green Card to Immigration on arrival, you may
need to present your passport as well.

[top]Notes

[top]Length of stay restrictions.

Be aware that F and L visas may have length of stay restrictions - ie, you may have a 6-month F
visa with a 60 day stay restriction, meaning you have to leave the country every two months.
Leaving the country can be as simple as crossing the border into Hong Kong and coming right back,
but even this can be expensive and time-consuming if you live in Urumuqi.

[1] Some Nanjing students made this mistake when they took part in a television advertisement for
a School that didn't have the authority to employ westerners. The School was shut down and
students were checked on everyday in the campus and were almost deported.

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Sunday, June 8, 2008

Chinese Course - Pinyin for 伍佰 - 忘情歌?? Thanx :) - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Chinese Tattoos, Chinese Names and Quick Translations

Pinyin for 伍佰 - 忘情歌?? Thanx :)
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Hi guys!
Could someone please help make pinyin for the following song (its in Mandarin)?
I looked over the WHOLE internet trying to find the pinyin but I could not find it

Thanks alot

[ti:忘情歌]
伍佰 china blue -忘情歌
精选辑忘情1015
music...

心里面能够有多少空间
藏着原来的幸福藏着你的美
锁住在心间还要经过多少年
它会变成了石头找不到出口

一个人能有多少个聚点
在每一条爱情路多半世孤独
当然也有天好不好停在那边
让我拥有一个我
从新的自我完整的自我

尽情遗忘明天的路我要向着阳光
坚持遗忘我要和你毁灭在那一方
渐行遗忘怀念你我带着太多感伤
就算匆忙我要好好体会人生流转
一个人能有多少个聚点
在每一条爱情路多半世孤独
当然也有天好不好停在那边
让我拥有一个我从新的自我
完整的自我再一次的我
澎湃的心中会有清澈的水让我徜徉
那一个地方可以大声呼喊像在海洋

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roddy -

Why look for it when you can make it - that's just one of the pinyin converters available, I'm
sure there are others.
Paste it in, select Hanzi>Pinyin and submit. Done.

It's automated, so you need to look out for errors, but it's generally reliable.

PandaRoo -

Wow mad! thanx alot! Hahahah didn't know such a tool existed :P

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cang zhe yuan lai de xing fu cang zhe ni de mei
suo zhu zai xin jian hai yao jing guo duo shao nian
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Dear friends,

in this sentence

国家体育场工程设计中进行的性能化消防设计涉及以下几个方面:
  ①± 0.00层环形车道及两侧用房区域防火分区设置及防排烟处理。
  ②3层(餐厅)、4层(包厢)防火分区划分。

what does "①± 0.00层环形车道及两侧用房区域防火分区设置及防排烟处理。"
mean?

①Installation of fire compartments and smoke management for the annular car lane and the two
sides of the used areas on the ± 0.00 floor?

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Installation of fire compartments and smoke management for the annular car lane and the two sides
of the used areas on the ± 0.00 floor?

"车道" : Is "carriageway" more appropriate?

"on the ± 0.00 floor" should be used to modify "环形车道",so it's better to put it after
"carriageway".("on the ± 0.00 floor"用来修饰限制“车道”,应该放“车道”后吧)

“两侧用房区域” means "area used for house on the two sides of the carriageway"(or
“areas on the two sides of the carriageway used for house ”,which better?)
"two sides" is two sides of carriageway,not area.

“防排烟处理”:You didn't translate the "防排".
“防”:prevent,防止,避免;“排”:vent,排出。“防排烟处理”means
“防烟排烟处理”actually.("management for preventing and venting smoke"?
不知道翻译的是否准确)

hope help you

aboooot -

Thank you!
You certainly helped me! The only thing that is not clear now is that 用房...
does it mean that the two areas near the carriageway are rooms?

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聽老師念出並寫出音節數

Everything's clear to me except "並". I know of another meaning for this character that wouldn't
make sense. In this sentence, does 並 mean "and then ". Is it a formal way to say 然後?

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聽老師念並寫出音節數

並 = 並且,just means "and"
然後 means "then". Both are formal. If you want to use 然後, you can say
先聽老師念,然後寫出音節數。

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Thanks.

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Dear friends,
what does 人文风范 mean? literary style?

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Are you sure it is not 文人風範?

monto -

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what does 人文风范 mean? literary style?

"moral and manner" when related to one or a few people, and
"culture and custom" when related to a place, organization or group.

aboooot -

thank you! "Culture and costumes" suits perfectly!

Lu -

Make sure you write customs (habits) and not costumes (clothes).

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Friday, June 6, 2008

Chinese Studies - ZDT: problems importing 略 - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Chinese Computing and Technology > ZDT Flashcards Forum

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I noticed that whenever I tried to import a wordlist containing an entry with "略 lüè", the
import got hosed: The import filter seems to be unable to handle pinyin lüè correctly (lu:è
would work, though). As "女 nǚ" is dealt with correctly, so should "略 lüè", shouldn't it?

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Thanks for pointing that out. I'll take a look.

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I'm trying to buy an herbal medicine known as passiflora incarnata/maypop

so far i have the name for "passion flower" which is 西番莲

but there are many different kinds of the plant and i'm hoping someone out there can ask around
for me and try to find the specific breed's name that i'm looking for.

thanks a lot everyone!

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According to the Chinese Wikipedia it is 美国的西番莲

monto -

Try with "粉色西番莲" on Google.

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Thursday, June 5, 2008

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I finished watching "Hana-yori Dango" (my previous post) - season 1 and 2, awesome!

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Can anyone give some info in English about "奋斗 (奮鬥)", please? My workmate has the whole
series. I can borrow it with Chinese subtitles from him. I searched for English subtitles,
couldn't find any.

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Here is a thread about it and you might try searching as it is mentioned in other threads
somewhere (I remember reading about it)

atitarev -

Thanks, Muyongshi!

muyongshi -

And I will just add that I found it to be a (overall) very enjoyable series and I do recommend it!

atitarev -

I am sure will be back with questions regarding this series.

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Wednesday, June 4, 2008

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Quote:

I certainly

find it

Quote:

particularly annoying when

someone feels the need

Quote:

to microquote someone elses

post like this and

Quote:

rebut virtually every sentence.

If you think they're that wrong, just

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point and laugh at them, surely.

But that's a different issue.

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I agree with Imron and Skylee, it's fine without a quote button. A quote button leads inevitably
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Does anyone have any experience with this. I am using the palmOS. It seems as is it is not
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the pathway structure in the palm os seems to be beyond me.

Thanks
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The directory structure is actually fairly simple install resco explorer and you can look around
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Tuesday, June 3, 2008

Chinese School - Short Story by 郁达夫 (Yu Dafu) - 春风沉醉的晚上 (Spring Night) - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Resources and General Study Issues > Book of the Month

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gato -

Breaking out from an earlier thread:
http://www. From Beijing Chinese School/showthread.php?t=18542

Some of us are reading and will be discussing 春风沉醉的晚上 (Spring Night).
http://www.oklink.net/99/1222/yudafu/003.htm

You can read an article about the author here:
http://www.cctv.com/lm/176/71/88858.html
Yu Dafu

As I mentioned in the earlier thread, the style and the psychological details are a bit
reminiscent of F. Scott Fitzgerald and other writers of the early 20th century. One can guess from
Yu's use of English phrases in places, that he probably was very much influenced by English
language literature of that era, though his writing is also very Chinese. The grammar and
vocabulary, particularly, are not completely vernacular Chinese (白话). One might say that it
has 10-20% classical Chinese elements. Some of Lu Xun's stories are similar in this respect.

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muyongshi -

Very interesting story indeed! I like his writing style. I still need to go through it a second
time, but I found his style of writing very colorful and perfectly descriptive and to me influence
from other languages was not obvious. I'll be looking into some more of his works...

文言訓開班 -

gato, thanks for starting the new thread!

I'm just checking in. I'm three paragraphs into the first chapter. I'm hope my slow reading speed
is not too annoying for the other readers here This Chinese is challenging to me, but should be
manageable.

I like the voice the writer's using so far. The language is indeed descriptive and colorful. Some
of the words trip me up, though. Out of curiosity, he had to 拖几本破书 in the first
paragraph--are 破书 books he'd already read?

同志们加油!

gato -

Quote:

Out of curiosity, he had to 拖几本破书 in the first paragraph--are 破书 books he'd already
read?

破书 literally means "dilapidated books," but I think here he's using it self-deprecatingly or
self-pityingly to refer to his few possessions. I'm glad you guys are enjoying it so far. I was
very impressed by the story myself.

Muyongshi, I see a European/American influence because of psychological details. I believe that
Chinese authors of earlier generations tend to be less focused on psychology. Many fiction writers
in the 1912-1949 period studied abroad and often were fluent in several foreign languages (e.g.
Japanese, English, French, German). Lu Xun was at least fluent in Japanese and I bet borrowed many
Japanese writing techniques into his writing. We have remember that vernacular Chinese writing
(白话) was still a brand new animal at this time. Everybody was experimenting and naturally
borrowing from foreign vernacular literature that they knew. Classical Chinese writing typically
is very pithy and informs by allusions. They are like those paintings that create images with
absence of brush strokes rather than the presence. You can't just directly translate from
classical Chinese to vernacular Chinese.

muyongshi -

Quote:

破书 literally means "dilapidated books," but I think here he's using it self-deprecatingly or
self-pityingly to refer to his few possessions.

I agree with you because within the first few paragraphs he goes to great lengths to describe his
books as pretty much being his only possession. I also think that it refers to the fact that books
are his "life" so to say. He doesn't really have any other possessions but he can't part with his
books.

roddy -

Is there a schedule for reading this over a certain period of time or are we just doing it all at
once?

muyongshi -

I read it in about 20-25 minutes the first time and am going to do a second time and re-lookup
some of the language and that will probably take me about and hour so....

roddy -

I thought it might be an idea to break it into chunks - has four parts anyway - and do them one by
one for the sake of people who will be doing significant amounts of dictionary look up. Not sure
if that's worth doing or not.

文言訓開班 -

I'm a little pressed for time as of right now. Would we be willing to put off finishing this story
until maybe Tuesday?

muyongshi -

Does it matter when who finishes what? We can just talk about it as people feel like talking about
it....it's not like a book club, just like any other thread, anybody can jump in anytime right?

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Sabine -

Hello, Thank you so much for your help Skylee, it has been very useful indeed! I went away for the
weekend and asked a couple of young chinese girls how to pronounce some of the names that have
been suggested and names I thought were very beautiful, when spoken in English did not at all
appeal to me being spoken in chinese. I got the pronounciation totally wrong.
I was hoping to find a name that English people won't have a problem with in how to pronounce it
since we are living in Australia and I am originally from Germany. It would be nice to have a name
that also has some sort of significance to my daughters personality but I guess you can't have it
all.
My daughter has lovely green eyes, so Mei Lu, or is it Mei Luo would be quite fitting I think. In
Australia the English male name Milo is not unusual so I would not be too worried that my daughter
would be called Milo.
My first daughters name is Mei Li and I always knew that Mei is beautiful and that Li can be for
Plumblossum but is it right that it is also for Jasmine? This would be rather funny since my
daughters first name is Yasmine.

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Lu -

Sabine, I hope you don't mind me saying this, but given that you are German-Australian, neither
speak, write, understand or can pronounce Chinese, your daughters are not Chinese, and you don't
have any close acquaintances that speak Chinese, why on earth are you so set on giving your
daughters a Chinese name? If you want a name that is meaningful and pronounceable for you and your
family, wouldn't a German name be a better idea?

skylee -

Lu, see post #1 -

Quote:

I have already another girl whose middle name is Mei Li and the surname is Heng. My second
daughters name should also start with Mei as this is a tradition that runs in the family.

As to the "Li" in "Mei Li", if you have not yet chosen the Chinese Character (I mean perhaps some
of the elders in the family might have chosen one), then I suppose you are free to interpret it as
李 (Li3, plum), 梨 (Li2, pear), 莉 (Li4, jasmine), 荔 (Li4, lychee) etc. The numbers denote
the tones if they are pronounced in Mandarin.

Sabine -

Hello, Thank you Skylee! once again. My husbands dad migrated from Singapore to the UK in the 50's
where he married a English lady. He never spoke chinese to the children, therefor my husband does
not speak chinese. My husbands dad died several years ago and there is no chinese family in the Uk
with the Singapore side of the family being rather loosely connected to us. My husband and his
siblings have a chinese middle name in common and depite there being not much heritage to hold on
to he and his siblings decided to keep the custom of a chinese middle name. I respect that custom
even though I am German, but our children are one quarter chinese and therefor I think it is right
to do so. We lived for a few years in HK and Japan, but that was before we had kids.
I very much appreciate all the help, especially from Skylee. would Mei Lu and Mei Luo be the same?
Thank you again!

Sabine -

Hi Skylee, I just managed to find my way through all the links you had so kindly included in your
comments and actually listen to some of the names and of course now I know that Lu and Luo and
very different. I am now deciding between Mei Lu and Mei Tian.

Sabine -

I would like to let you know that we decided on Mei Lu for our daughter. Thank you very much for
all your help with a very special thank you to Skylee. I very much appreciated your help and
without it it would have been so much harder to decide. A BIG thank you!
Sabine

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Monday, June 2, 2008

Chinese Class - "sustainable" (English) -> ?? (Chinese) - From Beijing Chinese School.com > Learning Chinese > Reading and Writing

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is there a word in Chinese that is close in meaning to 'sustainable' in English?

in the context of 'sustainable business model' ie a venture that will not require permanent inflow
of resources but will be capable of sustaining itself. thanks!

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可持续的?

Mugi -

可持续 / 可持續 (ke3 chi2 xu4) is the usual term

volga_volga -

thank you very much!

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I was listening to a recording but got stuck at just one syllable (I think ). What is it? Please
fill the gap with the missing bit (You may have to listen to the attached file, I think):

她不是一个可以勤俭节 [ __ ] 的人,太浪费。

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grimacekid -

that is 约.
勤俭节约, if you familiar with this phase, you won't miss it!
cheers!

roddy -

节约?

Edit: Gargh, beaten to it

HashiriKata -

Thank you to you both. Yes, as usual, after seeing the answer I think I should have known .

As for the recording, I don't think the pronunciation of 约 is very precise, would anyone agree
with me?
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EDIT: After listening again a few more times, the pronunciation now seems quite clear. So, it's
really my lacking

roddy -

It was only because of the phrase that I was able to guess what it was. If it'd been a random
idiom or something I'd never heard of, I doubt I'd have had a clue.

chenpv -

yue1, absolutely. Though with a slight southern accent, the woman sounds perfectly standard and
clear, to me at least.

HashiriKata -

Quote:

yue1, absolutely.

Vielen Dank!
Yes, absolutely! you're right, as noted in my previous post!

nipponman -

I could hear 约 fine, i didn't hear 的人 very well though. Oh well, back to the grind!

lokki -

But, how should the last bit 太浪费 be interpreted ? According to the dictionaries 浪费 =
waste, squander, extravagant, so that would translate something like "she is too extravagant", or
"she wastes/spends too much (money)", but listening to it I get a feeling it could mean something
like "it is such a waste", "it is such a shame" - is this wrong?

HashiriKata -

Quote:

Originally Posted by lokki

so that would translate something like "she is too extravagant", or "she wastes/spends too much
(money)", but listening to it I get a feeling it could mean something like "it is such a waste",
"it is such a shame" - is this wrong?

Your interpretations are all reasonable, because the speaker didn't seem to be strict enough in
the structure of the sentences. I guess, however, that by saying "she's not a frugal, thrifty
person" the speaker must have then intended to mean, as you put it, "she wastes/spends too much
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Forum: Bug Reports / Help 24th July 2007, 01:23 PM

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From Beijing Chinese School Wiki?

Hey Roddy et. al,

Sorry, I've been busy latelyI can help work on the living in China section. Should I PM or email
it to Gato.
Some subtopics could be :
Accomodation
Teaching Jobs- issues and...

Forum: Bug Reports / Help 29th June 2007, 02:26 PM

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From Beijing Chinese School Wiki?

I agree with Gato that we should start it and as it gets popular people will join.

Starting it about Nanjing and Beijing would cool. We could put some travel stuff in as well .
I also agree and...

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From Beijing Chinese School Wiki?

I would contribute to the wiki, My translator job doesn't let me check my email only Chinese
forums.
Plus I have first hand info on Nanjing an Jiangsu,
There was a chinese guy who wanted to do some...

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Forum: Bug Reports / Help 24th April 2008, 03:35 PM

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Chinese Forums Blocked???

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Re: Chinese Forums Blocked???

Rumor has it that some people live outside of China.

@Heifeng - no idea, sorry.

Forum: Bug Reports / Help 31st March 2008, 01:34 PM

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Chinese Forums Blocked???

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Re: Chinese Forums Blocked???

Once a new member has made a few posts that have made it through the moderation process - ie
they're not spamming or posting incoherent nonsense, etc - they'll be given full access to all
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Chinese Forums Blocked???

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Also, bear in mind that the News forum is not open to new members.

If they're on a university network they may be subject to the university's own limits, as well as
general Internet ones. Given the...

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Some of you may have been having issues related to this
(http://www. From Beijing Chinese School Blocked???

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Because I'm only wrong 90% of the time. And the last nine problems were my fault. Hence . . .

Forum: Bug Reports / Help 25th March 2008, 08:03 PM

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Chinese Forums Blocked???

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Oh well, looks like there was some problem then. But I'm fairly sure it wasn't my fault . . .

Forum: Bug Reports / Help 25th March 2008, 01:48 PM

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Hmmm, what error messages were you getting?

Forum: Bug Reports / Help 25th March 2008, 12:10 PM

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No other reports, and I can see people from a few different locations in China online. I'd be
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Monday, May 26, 2008

Chinese Class - Emperor statues near completion

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Emperor statues near completion

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Main part of the huge majestic statues of the Yellow Emperor & Yan
Emperor has been completed in Henan's Zhengzhou City. The statues occupy
an area of 2,816 square meters and are 106 meters in height. They were
constructed on the body of a hill, which created a right mix of the hill
and the figure. The entire project will be finished by the end of 2006.

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Sunday, May 25, 2008

Chinese language - Rich natural gas resources discovered

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Chinanews, Beijing, July 14 - An officer from the Ministry of Land and
Resources said on July 13 that a great discovery had been made in ocean
natural gas prospecting, when a natural gas field was found in the
LW3-1-1 natural gas well with an estimated reserve of more than 100
billion cubic meters, and it might be the biggest natural gas field in
the Chinese sea area.
This discovery also proved that the Zhujiang River Estuary Basin is a
gas-rich section, which will enhance China's confidence in prospecting
for oil and gas in the South China Sea in the future.
China has done much research and prospecting work in this sea area since
the 1990s. The Ministry of Land and Resources has started selecting
strategic oil and natural gas resources blocks, and the Oil and Gas
Prospecting Project in Continental Slopes in the North of South China Sea
has been named among the first batch of the strategic blocks. The project
started in 2004 with the support of national finance.

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Saturday, May 24, 2008

Chinese Lesson - China needs to strengthen efforts for IPR protection on trade marks

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Chinanews, Guangzhou, July 3 �C While some Chinese enterprises are
engaged in producing and selling fake world-brand products for profit,
quite a few foreign companies are also bent on registering famous Chinese
brands. To protect famous Chinese brands effectively, Chinese companies
have to be cautioned about the tricks played by foreign companies.
In a recent seminar on the intellectual property rights (IPR) ownership
and innovation held in Guangdong, participants pointed out that some
foreign companies had deliberately registered famous Chinese trademarks.
Since they play tricks within the law limits of their own country, it is
relatively easier for them to escape punishment.
China is now a leading country in terms of trademark registration. In
2005, some 664,000 trademarks were registered in China, up 12.9% from
last year, and the fourth consecutive year for China to have registered
the most number of trademarks.
��In spite of this, we should keep a sober mind about the fact that China
is still not a strong country in this aspect,�� said Li Yanzhang, deputy
director of the China Trademark Association. At present, few Chinese
brand names are influential in the world.
While the number of famous Chinese brand names is quite limited, many of
them are under constant attacks by foreign companies in trade
registration. The problem lies in the very fact that China has not paid
enough attention to its IPR protection. Among all exported Chinese goods,
only 21% have their trademarks, 29% have no trademarks at all and 50% are
OEM (Original Equipment Manufacturer) goods. Among ��the 500 most
valuable Chinese brand names�� published by the World Brand Lab, 46% have
not registered in the United States and 76% not registered in the
European Union.

          ��China opens hot lines to hear IPR complaints
          ��Chinese bloggers busy protecting their IPR

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Friday, May 23, 2008

Learn Mandarin online - Minister of Railways travels to Lhasa by experimental train

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Minister of Railways travels to Lhasa by experimental train

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-21 17:30:10

The Qinghai-Tibet Railway will start trial operations on July.1.

Chinanews, June 21 �C Recently, Liu Zhijun, Chinese Minister of Railways,
started his Tibetan journey from Beijing. He led officials from the
Ministry of Railways traveling through the newly-built Qinghai-Tibet
Railway in 3 days, examining its preparatory work before its trial run
scheduled on July 1.
Liu pointed out the problems in the course of the ride. When the train
encountered sudden bumping, he suggested it was caused by the technical
problems of the railway, and asked related officials to solve it. He also
required local railway bureaus to recycle the materials of railway
constructions. He pointed out the spare tracks should not be put beside
the railway. He was upset when he saw cows and sheep finding food on the
railway tracks, and thus he required the public security agencies of the
railway and local governments to send necessary security knowledge to
local farmers and herdsmen, helping to make everyone know the meaning of
protecting the railway.
When the experimental train went through the permafrost area, Liu pointed
out to the officials to make regular investigation of the frozen earth,
to guarantee the travel safety of the Qinghai-Tibet Railway.
Liu then talked with Wang Xinwen, head of the Lhasa Railway Station,
through GSM-R communication equipment, the first Chinese railway mobile
communication system to be applied, receiving Wang's report about the
ongoing preparatory work.
When Liu arrived in Lhasa, he immediately convened meetings at which he
studied the preparatory work to the trail run of the Qinghai-Tibet
Railway together with local officials, and expressed his wishes for the
successful trial operation.

          ��Lhasa railway station unveiled
          ��Garbage train to run on Qinghai-Tibet railway
          ��Staff of Qinghai-Tibet Railway trained for better service

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Thursday, May 22, 2008

Chinese Mandarin - "Hometown of hundred festivals" in Guangxi

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"Hometown of hundred festivals" in Guangxi

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Pictured: fancy wedding customs and courtesy.

June 15 - Rongshui Miao Autonomous County of Guangxi's Liuzhou City is
located on the border of Guizhou Province and Guangxi Zhuang Autonomous
Region, 154 km to Guilin City and 100 km to Liuzhou.
Here live 13 minority groups including Miao, Yao, Dong, Zhuang, Mulam and
Shuijia, with Miao ethnic people making up 39% of the 470,000 population.
Therefore it is called Damiaoshan by folks.
It enjoys rich ethnic customs and is reputed as the "Hometown of hundred
festivals". The county celebrates nearly 100 various folk festivals and
gatherings every year. Numerous ethnic festivals, unique wood buildings,
costumes of exquisite handicraft, ethnic meals full of fun and fantastic
wedding customs constitute a colorful folk-custom picture.

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Wednesday, May 21, 2008

Chinese Online Class - Chinese riot squad vital in Haiti's peacekeeping

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Chinese riot squad vital in Haiti's peacekeeping

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-12 15:01:27

Staff members of the United Nations Stabilization Mission in Haiti were
attacked by gun-armed gangsters on the construction site of
Port-au-Prince in Haiti on June 10. Ten Chinese riot policemen patrolling
nearby immediately arrived at the spot after receiving the command of the
United Nations Stabilization Mission in Haiti and started hunting for the
gangsters. Chinese riot squad has become an important armed force that
shoulders the responsibility of crucial actions in the Haiti-based
peace-keeping and riot squads of the Mission.

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Tuesday, May 20, 2008

Chinese Lesson - 204 pieces of Chinese treasures return

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204 pieces of Chinese treasures return

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-07 14:35:18

A spectator was watching the recovered Buddha's head in Longmen Grottoes
at the "special exhibition of National Cultural Heritage Day, achievement
in key Chinese cultural relic collection" being held in Beijing early
June. It is learnt that starting 2002, the Chinese government formally
launched special funds of key cultural relic collection, and appropriates
50 million yuan (US$6.25 million) annually to recover precious cultural
relics lost overseas. So far, actual spending totaled around 200 million
yuan and 204 pieces of Chinese treasures are return.

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Monday, May 19, 2008

Learn Mandarin online - Mao's English interpreter

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�� Civilian public security patrol squad in Guangdong

�� Asian senior officials staged fashion show

�� Wheat harvest in Henan

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Mao's English interpreter

www.chinanews.cn 2006-06-02 14:57:06

Tang Wensheng, Mao Zedong's English interpreter, showed up in Kuala
Lumpur on June 1. When Seri Najib, Malaysia's deputy prime minister, was
invited to visit China last year, he suggested to invite those who have
made significant contribution to establishing diplomatic relations
between China and Malaysia on the Chinese party to Malaysia for a trip to
brighten the chain.

Upon invitation from Seri Najib, Malaysia's deputy prime minister, Tang
Wensheng, Mao Zedong's English secretary, made his maiden trip to
Malaysia on June 1. Pictured, Malaysia's tourism minister was presenting
a gift to Tang.

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Sunday, May 18, 2008

Chinese Online Class - Grand dragon boat race held in Hong Kong

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�� Migrant workers returned home for wheat harvest

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�� Weddings for modern princess

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Grand dragon boat race held in Hong Kong

www.chinanews.cn 2006-05-31 09:09:23

Photo shows participants paddle boats during a run-up of the upcoming
dragon boat race in Hong Kong. The grand dragon boat race will be held in
several coastal areas in Hong Kong to celebrate the traditional Chinese
Dragon Boat Festival, which falls on May 31 this year.

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Saturday, May 17, 2008

Chinese Mandarin - Shanxi's first police physical training center

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�� Human-bred northeast tiger reproduced

�� US marching orchestra entertained Xiamen

�� Rare jar of Qing Dynasty to be auctioned

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Shanxi's first police physical training center

www.chinanews.cn 2006-05-25 16:22:05

The first county-level policeman physical training center of Shanxi
Province was built and started operation in the public security bureau of
Yu County on May 24, 2006. The bureau has invested 380,000 yuan
(US$47,500) to set up a police physical training center in the county's
sports committee, in order to elevate the law executing level and
abilities in real combat of policemen working at grass-root units and the
front.

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Friday, May 16, 2008

Chinese Class - Shanghai's "cultural relic map"

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�� "Eating competition" in Shanghai

�� Professional underwear models in China

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Shanghai's "cultural relic map"

www.chinanews.cn 2006-05-22 16:10:02

A "cultural relic map" appeared on Shanghai's Huaihai Road on May 20. For
the first time, the cultural relic administrative committee of Shanghai's
Luwan District showed the public most places of interest with cultural
relics in the district through a "cultural relic map" in a detailed and
direct manner, which delivered convenience to Chinese and foreign
visitors.

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Thursday, May 15, 2008

Chinese Lesson - Hairpin store sees booming business

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Ladies from Singapore, Hong Kong and other regions bought many exquisite
hairpins and said they would present them to friends all over the world.
"World of Hairpin," a small store located in the Shanghai Yuyuan Tourist
Mart, sells hundreds of types of hairpins that feature fashionable
elements and folk customs, attracting a large number of women buyers who
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Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Chinese Mandarin - Peng Jiamu Memorial Hall completed in Turpan

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The large sand statue and memorial hall of Peng Jiamu, a noted Chinese
scientist and vice president of the Xinjiang Branch of the Chinese
Academy of Sciences have been completed in the Kumtag Desert scenic spot
of Xinjiang's Turpan recently. Peng Jiamu, who is from Panyu District of
Guangzhou City in Guangdong Province, was mysteriously missing while
leading an expedition to Lop Nur on June 17, 1980.

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Saturday, May 10, 2008

Chinese Online Class - Christie's to auction pricey imperial artworks

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Hong Kong's Christie's auction house showed the press a batch of imperial
fine artworks on May 8. These artworks will be auctioned on May 30. A
black official zither made during the Northern Song Dynasty (960-1127AD)
was shown on May 8. This zither will be auctioned on May 30 and is
regarded as one of the oldest zithers in the Northern Song Dynasty.

Hong Kong's Christie's auction house showed the press a black official
zither made during the Northern Song Dynasty (960-1127AD) on May 8. This
zither will be auctioned on May 30 and is regarded as one of the oldest
zithers in the Northern Song Dynasty.

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Friday, May 9, 2008

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The hotel was renovated in 2001. The 19-storey building has 165
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Chinese restaurant Multifunctional hall (200 people) Conference rooms
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Thursday, May 8, 2008

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Shanghai Huaying Textile Building Hotel - Shanghai

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